⅛ Rally Car Showdown - Carisma Subaru Impreza, HPI WR8 Flux & CEN Ford Puma

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Updated 2024-04-26 by Nicky

The ⅛ scale RC rally car market has had a sudden influx of newcomers to this category. For such a long time it was just the HPI WR8 (in both electric and nitro versions) for your choice to tackle the special stages. But now we have the Carisma Subaru Impreza WRC and the CEN 2023 M-Sport Ford Puma as possible alternatives. Are either of these new kids on the block good to topple the HPI WR8? Lets take a look and find out.
Out The Box

Out the box all the HPI WR8 Flux and the CEN 2023 M-Sport Ford Puma are just as good each other to be honest. When you look at the specs of both cars they are pretty similar. The Carisma Subaru looks a bit cheaper to the other cars, and the spec of the car is lower especially with it being a 2S only capable car compared to the 3S capable WR8 and CEN Puma. Not only is the spec low on the Carisma, but the look and quality of the body isn’t as good to be honest. This stands out more when you have the cars all next to each other. The one thing I did like with the Carisma is the way it was packaged, it was very well thought through. The looks of the body on the WR8 and CEN Puma are excellent, but the CEN Puma just takes it due to the quality of the body, it really is something special and the amount of customers that come in the shop and comment on how stunning the body is speaks volumes on the job CEN have done with the Puma Rally 1 body.  


Performance

So the one that doesn’t stand out well on this is the Carisma Subaru in comparison to the WR8 and CEN Puma. Out the box the Carisma was extremely slow, and was disappointing to drive. On the 2S lipo that is the maximum the car will run on, it achieved a very lacklustre 17mph. I have had Taymia TT02’s go quicker than that on a brushed motor with a 2S lipo! I did shortly after upgrade the Motor and ESC to be 3S and 4S capable, along with a small upping of teeth on the pinion gear, which made a big difference to the performance of the car but I do think that while the upgrade will run 4S, I think I would just stick to running it on 3S lipo max. I highly doubt the internals would cope with the big increase of power and torque that 4S will bring, especially compared to the 2S it is built to run on. 


The WR8 is such a cracking piece of kit to use, it feels so controllable to drive and you can get some lovely 4wd slides in it and chuck it about at ease. I really like it, and even the rest of the team admit if is probably the only HPI they would own themselves now after having a go on mine. The CEN 2023 M-Sport Ford Puma is marginally better than the WR8 though. Whether it is down to the tarmac tyres I don’t know, but honestly this car is awesome! I have ran it quite a few times now and it never fails to put a smile on my face. It drives beautifully, so easy to drive and slide about with no dramas or issues. It would have been very impressive if the car was close to the WR8, but for it to be better, albeit marginally better than the WR8, is credit to CEN and their team for making such a car.

And The Winner Is...

I have to admit I wasn’t knowing which car was going to win between the CEN Puma and the HPI WR8 Flux. After thinking about it, the CEN does win it though as it is such a stunning product. I have to say a massive well done to CEN for making such a product that would have been impressive if it was close to the long standing king, the HPI WR8. But for CEN to bring a car to market that is better, is a real credit to them and I applaud them for this. Hopefully they will now look into making some more bodies to fit on the chassis as I think this could be a long standing champion if they have the support for the product like parts and upgrades like different bodies etc like HPI have done over the years with the WR8.


While the Carisma Subaru Impreza WRC is last on my list, I think it is only fair to point out that even with the upgrades I have done to the car, it is still quite a fair bit cheaper than the HPI WR8 and the CEN Puma. I do feel though that there was no excuse for Carisma to release the car as a 2S brushless setup only. For a car of that size, 2S was always going to be a massive struggle, and it surely wouldn’t have cost Carisma much more if they went for a 3S brushless system in their car. The choice of the 1997 Impreza WRC body is absolute genius though, and to be honest that was one of the main reasons I wanted the car regardless as it brings back personal memories of watching Colin McRae and Nicky Grist on the 1997 Network Q Rally. The fact Carisma are soon to be releasing another version of a ⅛ scale rally car, this time based on the awesome Group B Audi Quattro S1 E2, but on a 3S system, pretty much shows Carisma’s own admission that running the Subaru on 2S was quite simply a mistake.


I'm really pleased to have each of these cars in my RC collection. I love having them on display in the shop and they always get some good rally chat with people too. While the HPI WR8 and CEN Puma are the top dogs, the Carisma Impreza is still a welcome addition and I will be having plenty of fun with all these cars for a long time in the future.


If ever you would like any help or advice on purchasing any of these cars, always pop an email over to our support team or give us a call and I will happily chat about the pro and cons of these special stage monsters.